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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:52 am 
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Hey all,

Some revisions to my layout may require me to change a couple of #8 turnouts into a double slip to reduce the space requirements. Sadly, I'm only needing two, which makes the Fast-tracks jig an large expense for just two of these things, and I'd rather not look at commercial slips due to the quality...

Anyone got one of the #8 Double Slip fixtures and some time and materials to build me a couple? I'm not in any major hurry for them...

Please drop me an e-mail offline to passenger @ calgaryfreemo.ca and let me know.

Thanks!
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 Post subject: DS Fixture
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:03 pm 
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For only 2 DS, I'd take a paper template - glue down the PC ties - use gages and build them up carefully by hand. Use the FastTracks wood tie bases and fix it in place.

You have to do the points last and onto the wooden ties - especially the center crossing points - these must be hinged.

I't will take a bit more time - but with a number of turnouts under your belt - the hand construction (with gages) can be undertaken.

Having someone do them for you is EFFORT and TIME - you would NOT like the charges. (Last ONE I did for someone was $150.00).

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 Post subject: Re: DS Fixture
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:26 pm 
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emccamey (!empty($user->lang['WROTE'])) ? $user->lang['WROTE'] : ucwords(strtolower(str_replace('_', ' ', 'WROTE'))):
For only 2 DS, I'd take a paper template - glue down the PC ties - use gages and build them up carefully by hand. Use the FastTracks wood tie bases and fix it in place.

You have to do the points last and onto the wooden ties - especially the center crossing points - these must be hinged.

I't will take a bit more time - but with a number of turnouts under your belt - the hand construction (with gages) can be undertaken.

Having someone do them for you is EFFORT and TIME - you would NOT like the charges. (Last ONE I did for someone was $150.00).


I'm seeing what you mean. Had a look at the pricing of the assembly fixtures (around $100), plus the incremental costs of the wood ties, solder, PC Board ties, rail, etc. (I've already got a #8 and #6 point/frog grinding jig), so give or take $120ish for two double slips.

Then I looked at what the Walthers/Shinohara #8 double slips are worth and realizing that they're charging around 60ish US each.

Appears the break even point for the Double Slip switches is down to around 2 turnouts. And yes, your notes about the effort and time is certainly appreciated. Seeing all the grinding to do, I'm thinking it'll be worthwhile just to get the commercial turnouts.

Unless someone has experience with both and can tell me what the differences are between both?

Thanks!
Jon


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 Post subject: Comercial vs Handlaid DS
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:44 am 
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The commercial DS don't have the center moving points - whcihc ARE REQUIRED for reliable operations. You would have to do some major surgery on the commercial units (See Wayne Brodericks DS on his Teton site).

For cost effective - actula handlaying with a template will work out at about $ 8.00 each for materials - but again lots of care effort.

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